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Should minors be punished?

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No problem. I didn't mean to come off like a old curmudgeon. But some things DO hit me the wrong way. And I believe in karma. What goes around comes around. So, getting off of the subject and unto another-

 

Merry Christmas to all and a wonderful New Year!!

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@honby50

I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you when you were a child. Despite all the pain and suffering you had to go through, but I'm glad you'd managed to find strength to lived on.

 

@All

I once met a pervert when I was on my way to school in my early teens. No serious harm was done, though I did tried my hardest to claw-scratch him as hard as I could with my then untrimmed nails before I ran like the wind to the safety of the main road. Still the incident shook me back then. though I was safe but the thought of it stayed on for several days before I return to my usual self and it was after a year or so that I was able to speak of it freely when similar topics risen.

 

Having faced a sex predator, whether the victim was a child or an adult, there would be a certain amount of damaged made to the person in various aspect (especially mentally and psychologically). The incident alone is enough to traumatized the victim but post events that follow the exposure of such sexual crime by the victim can sometime bring more suffering to the victim.

 

Anyone can easily say, "You should have told someone/authorities and the pervert could be taken care of". Unfortunately, many a times standing up to such incident can backfire and hurt the victim more. Going up against such sex criminals are not easy and requires a great amount of courage and a lot of support from the people around you. There are people who will force the victims into silence save theirs or the predator's skin, especially in cases where the predator is a person who the victim knows or a person of high social standings. There are also people, especially the "passerby crowd" who does nothing to help but their constant stares and attitudes towards the victim may unintentionally put the victim in the spotlight as if he/she's been branded for life and that they would have to bear the shame and humiliation all their lives.

 

Sorry, I'm totally out of topic. I guess as a female myself, I sort of feel strongly about such incidents, especially violence against women. People should recognize such problems and learn how best to help the victims. I'm sure there are articles online and in magazines nowadays that'll talk on such matters.

 

Back on topic...As for minors, they should be punished for whatever crimes or misdoings. Too young to understand? What nonsense! Then make 'em! :evil: Sorry, I'm a little carried away...:P But at the very least the minors must learn that whatever crimes they had done were wrong and should never be attempted again.

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Well said Elie! Well said. Just cuz they're(I'm) kids(some say I'm still a kid) doesn't mean that I can commit such crimes. We have to make kids understand what they're crimes could do to people no matter how young they are.

 

And now that you mention it, I've faced a sex predator too. It happened a few months ago actually.

 

"Unfortunately, many a times standing up to such incident can backfire and hurt the victim more."

 

very correct.

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As for the question at hand, I think it depends very much on the situation. There ought to be repercussions for minors as well as adults for their crimes, but punished? I'm still undecided about that. Where I come from, you become an adult in the eyes of the law at fifteen, you are then expected to understand right from wrong. Not that punishments here are all that severe for adults either. Looking at sentence lengths rape is a mitigating factor in threatening to kill someone (and no, not for the victim, but for the rapist!). But I'm getting off-topic. Undecided on the whole punishing minors thing.

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"Why did'nt he?"

 

^ He DID know and didn't care.

 

Going from your previous statement:

He captured her when the street was secluded and took her to a nearby abandoned house and did this.

 

^ You don't kidnap and take the girl to a location where no one can hear the girl scream unless you knew it was wrong. He planned this.

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@theone

really? he left without any penalty? My gosh. Seriously, no cime for taking away that little girl's innocence? That boy is in for it in heaven unless he really feels sorry for he's done before he dies. I swear I'm near that guys age and I feel ashamed of the name he's giving kids our age these days.....*sighs*

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In the US, it's astonishing. Probably not as much in Japan or another country where girls are looked down upon, which is why awareness is pretty much an issue. Kids (and even adults) do harrass and mistreat teens because they are not taught by their parents, teachers, or peers, or because they have observed phenomenoms of similar incidents around them and take it in as normal. How do we convince countries the importance of such scale when they do not enforce their own laws and teachings?

 

Or more importantly, how can we help victims who went through this cruel fate, and prevent others from entering the same situation?

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Ouch, Nick. I wouldn't say without mercy. Some little children do horrible things (e.g; the James Bulger case) because though they know what they've done is wrong, they don't know the full consequences of what they are doing. They don't understand death, they don't understand innocence. Knowing wrong from right comes early, but knowing why comes later on.

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@Scimitras: children who's told something bad or good will ask why. So they definitely know what happened with the thing that then called as a bad/good.

 

Back to a 14 years old boy who already understand anything(punishment, hurting the girl herself) would happen if he done such of thing, it's the same. Almost everyone must have done something that they exactly know that it's bad. Expecting the punishment? Of course. We make punishments and laws to prevent ppl doing bad things.

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My opinion,I think the children should be punished after is passed the judgment,this would be the best way.The judge would know if the boy knew that it was a bad thing,and on the base of the proof would know what to do about the person.

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You don't require a court's decision for punishing all children, unless the child has committed a crime or broken a law. Children should be punished and governed strictly if they cause other mishaps too, like breaking a neiighbour's window or bullying classmates/students at school, as well as many other types of mischief, to make sure they don't repeat it in future. This is what teaches them the difference between what is right and what is wrong, and if they aren't told so or punished, they never will learn on their own.

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People don't seem to understand that I'm hardly ever serious.

 

but seriously, unless you're under the age of like three, you know right from wrong. at least enough to know you shouldn't kill people.

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I don't think this 14 year old should be incarcerated or punished. He should be placed in a mental institution and heavily evaluated. There's something wrong with him and we need to find out what before he grows up and starts raping more people.

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Death for rape? That's a bit excessive.

 

Yes he traumatized a girl and hurt her. But the punishment should fit the crime. If anything he needs serious help and most likely jail time.

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Yip, I think minors should be tried as adults. Thing is, there's lots of people who say "Young people are stupid and are going to make mistakes." Which is true, but fact of the matter is most young people don't go out raping. They make other stupid mistakes that are kinda harmless, like getting caught smoking pot or with alcohol etc, not rape.

 

I don't think he should be put to death... I do think he should have his penis cut off and have to pee through a straw for the rest of his life though.

 

And Schrimtis didn't the convicted of the James Bulger case grow up and are spending the rest of their lives in jail for child porn??

 

And kleptin, what's wrong with him is he's a sociopath. It's incurable, and sadly common. Most people won't act on it though, because they're smart enough to know there are consequences if they get caught. The only regret they have is when they get caught.

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@kipani

 

Again. The punishment should fit the crime. And body dismemberment is a bit much.

 

Also, you can't say for sure he is a sociopath. Just because he raped a young girl doesn't mean he is a sociopath. There probably is something wrong with him, but it may not necessarily be he is a sociopath.

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He fits the profile of psychopath better. :)

When I was 11, a man did something similar to me. Except he was like 30 years older. The feelings left last a lifetime. What he has done to him should also last a lifetime. Perhaps he should be held down and raped by an older man. After all, what better punishment to 'fit' the crime, amiright?

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You can't really say which profile he fits because you don't know enough about him.

 

And no I wouldn't agree to that as for the guy's punishment. I wouldn't feel bad for him if that happened, but that shouldn't be his punishment.

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