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@theone:

Ow. That's extreme. You mean they have to be a specialist to get bigger pay?

 

7-10 years.... I wonder what will happen if those doctors finally became specialist. Won't they be a little older afterwards? :P

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Yup. And for males, that pretty much puts an end to marriage till their 32-33 since they barely support themselves in that pay. Kind of a birth control, too XD.

But when they specialize, add a zero to the salary which I gave for one month

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Really? Just the other day I read about how 9 of the top 10 highest paid positions are in the medical field.

 

oh but that might have just been the US. . .

Well, don't get me wrong - I make enough money for myself to live comfortably (i.e. I have a clean, if small, apartment; I eat well enough; I have a car, a small sedan; etc.)

 

But like I said, for what we do and the level of responsibility we carry, I don't think we get paid enough. For example, housekeeping staff and ward clerks' hourly base pay is probably $7-9 less than a RN's hourly base pay. A RPNs hourly base pay is a few dollars less than a RN's - in a lot of places, RPNs do much less than RNs, but on my floor, they do nearly as much yet get paid the same as the RPNs that don't. Housekeeping staff and ward clerks, while vital parts of the hospital staff, do not have to take any responsibility for direct patient care. It's not like they risk losing a licence - like us nurses or doctors - if they make a mistake that affects a patient's health and safety. They are not the ones running around answering call bells, administering medications (sometimes dangerous ones, too), starting IVs, providing emotional support, responding to critical situations (i.e. a Code Blue), constantly risking physical injury, etc.

 

On the contrary, the gap between a doctor's pay and a nurse's pay is worlds apart. I don't doubt that doctors don't deserve it - they work extremely hard, work long hours, are very smart, and are well educated. They are responsible for directing a patient's treatment and perform more complex procedures than nurses.

 

Still, why is the pay gap between a nurse and someone who sweeps the floors so much closer than the gap between a nurse's and a doctor's?

 

The answer is simply that there is no money in the budget. Nurses make up such a large part of the hospital staff that to pay each one a lot of money would be crippling.

 

It sucks but that's the way it is.

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@aeternus: just think of all the millions those movie stars/athletes get....

 

yep it's a screwed up world where expendable entertainers get millions more than teachers/docs/nurses/actually relevant workers etc.

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@KTC: I really agree. It's sad to think that people who aren't a necessary function of society get paid millions of dollars, when people who are very necessary get paid peanuts. Medical school is rather expensive, too, and if you don't get scholarships it would be a real pain. Bleah. It totally sucks that the people who are in control of whether we live or die get paid so little.

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Am suddenly confused as to what I want to do with my life. I have too many interests and... people constantly tell me that 2D animation is dying. I'm less inclined to believe them because they're just recounting what other people tell THEM and the only person who is actually someone from the Animation field is a 3D animator and would of course talk good stuff about 3D.

 

On a side note, I'm interning with Amaranth Games now. Wheee! :D :D :D

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Am suddenly confused as to what I want to do with my life. What I reaaaaally want to do is make 2D animation, but people constantly tell me that 2D animation is dying. I'm less inclined to believe them because they're just recounting what other people tell THEM and the only person who is actually someone from the Animation field is a 3D animator and would of course talk good stuff about 3D. Geh.

 

I suppose if all things fail I could set up a gift shop or something. Which is kinda a waste of my education. I'm considering getting into game design lately. Meaning that I'll have to take up yet another load of classes *sigh* I wonder if comics and manga are dying. That's my second preferred choice of career. Not really good with American style comics and not really interested in DC/Marvel kind of stuff. Which SUPPOSEDLY has a more stable fanbase than manga.

 

On a side note, I'm interning with Amaranth Games now. Wheee! :D :D :D At least that's one thing to be happy about.

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Aeternus, the salary for nurses (as well as for us physiotherapists) is a "problem" everywhere. Or at least everywhere I've heard ppl working as nurses in the world :P

 

Hmm, quite confident ppl here, who said they're GOING TO medical school. Is it so easy to get in, so you can just decide to GO in? I mean, it is *many MANY bad words* hard to get to medical school here in Finland even if you've studied for the exams a year and taken the preparation courses.

 

I'd very much like to give it a try but I think I'll be quite satisfied for now as the manipulative physiotherapist in surgical wards :P With manipulative I mean I make myself and patients rights and will quite clear to the doctors and they mostly then agree :lol:

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@leelah: med school in US is still freaken hard to get into. MCAT, grades, social skills, recommendation, GPA, yeesh.

 

I got the grades but I don't got anything else :(

Hence why I am now hobo-ing it with the parentals and taking a year off to study for the mcat. it's gonna be fun >_<

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@Stardale

Taga-Uste ka? (You're from UST?!) LOL, it means I'm just a few avenues away. XD It's...funny. I mean, there was a very big chance that I would've been a UST student, since the degree program I truly wanted is BA Literature. But life happened, so..yeah XP We could've met, man! XD

 

I should be out of college right now, but thesis is a major pain. So I'm technically of fourth year standing in BA Organizational Communication in UPM. My course has a little bit of everything when it comes to 'communication courses', although I still think that my best bet is to become a corporate consultant. I'm resigned to the fact that I will be part of the corporate machinery upon graduation, but I intend to become the largest cog. I don't mind if it will take me time.

 

I just have to finish this darn thesis. XD

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@smirksweetly: Yes, I'm from UST.

 

Too bad, because UST's AB Literature is one of the best programs offered in UST. Not to consider it is also under the college where I took my major! :D

 

But I tell you, taking up AB Literature is like AB Philosophy. In Philosophy, the pursuit of sophia/wisdom is a very lonely course. However, finishing this course means that you stood up to the task of finding the wisdom you always want to achieve. You can also answer some questions you have in mind. In Literature, analyzing poems such as The Congo is a very tiring course. However, there is an adventure in between. :D

 

But, screw it I'm an English major. :D Yet who knows, we might meet along the road!

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I'm still clueless as to what field I wanna specialize in. I've considered being a Wildlife Conservationist since I love animals but Biology is not in my list of subjects. Next comes Nuclear Engineering but apparently, there aren't many job offers in that field and I could end up unemployed :/ And nowadays, I hear of every other person becoming either a Doctor or a Software Engineer, so even though the prospect of money is high in those two fields, I've always wanted to do something different, like being a Palaeontologist. And now I'm thinking of being either a Patissiere or a Chef. Still weighing my options here =='

Are there any other interesting career options?

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Right.

 

Meroko's now in High School and is graduating in 2013 :P

 

I'm trying so hard to get 6 distinctions and join Medicine University I (not II not III )!

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uh... Meroko? do you mean middle school? :D

 

 

I'm in college for Computer Science/Software Engineering, same as D_A now.

Except, I am focused more on programming/code type stuff, where as she is the super awesome artist.

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@Fishie: I just finished "M. School" this Feb. And now I'm the FRESHER of "High School" and guess what? I'm going to be on the Top Ten list >

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I graduated with a bachelors of commerce about 10 years as well - so no feeling old Argoyle :) I actually went back to school for a year to get my math teachables after graduation as I couldn't decide between a career in marketing or teaching. I finally did decide on seizing an opportunity in marketing and have been working in the consumer package goods industry for the last number of years. I'm actually about to enter a new career however-that of Mommy. It's exciting and exhilerating-and we'll just have to see if I end up returning back to marketing after maternity leave is over or where life takes me.

 

Aeternus-I hear you on nurses salaries. A few of my friends after graduating went down to the States for a few years as it can be pretty lucrative (at least it was for them) and allowed them to save up/pay off student debt/save for a mortgage before moving on back up here. Have you thought about becoming a nurse practitioner? A couple of my friends completed a program at OttawaU for a dual masters/practitioners license and I think that helped their income boost.

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I have a bachelors in Sociology and I am currently enrolled in a masters of social work program. My husband (he plays too, but does not have an account) has a bachelors in Chemistry and Human Biology and is currently enrolled at NorthWestern Health Sciences University to be a Doctor of Chiropractic

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